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Astute Post at 1-9-2011 06:10

Bring back old refining rates.

Dont tell me it wasnt decreased with the new patch. Or suddenly many people just lost luck refining? [b]Constant[/b] fails going +4, +5 with 75% (basic) +5% from VIP +4% from guild... seriously...?

Nippy Post at 1-9-2011 17:24

Post patch i have failed 10/11 tries going to 9 with max debris and 2/3 magical shards each try.

Astute Post at 3-9-2011 14:04

they took our refining rate witohut even saying it. Sneaky. Kinda unrespecful to players. Also did you felt that now then they decreased the prices of sold items you wont even get money for NPC hire back? :) For top players of any new server who usually have no1 else to do instances with gold going down all the time. The only way is to sell something, but no1 buys because: 1) they also get a crappy ammount of money, 2) they dont need a much higher equipment or gems yet. I like the idea to make gold more valuable in this game but this is too much...

iyreguy1 Post at 3-9-2011 18:14

i failed 10 +4s, 8 +5s and 2 +6s, and 1 +7 today, why? because of debris.....

badland Post at 3-9-2011 18:28

whats the new rate ????{:2_25:}

Wrathborne08 Post at 3-9-2011 19:58

Dev's doesnt care about the refine rates.. Pls Dev's... fix this refine as soon as possible...

Iribaar Post at 4-9-2011 01:50

i failed 15-20 +4 +5 +6/ 3 +7 / 1 +8 /1 +9 using xtra 15 % from magic shard and 1% from debris (VIP,Amory 4%) for +7 +8 and full shards and debris !! to +9 so till now we are speking about 57 gems down the road + debris and DS/DG for 1 item that is +4 in the moment.
And then i was told that refining lv is the same it was before +9 Bug.
Well honestly i dont think so and neither do most players so just put it back as it was.

Iribaar Post at 4-9-2011 07:26

In the End its so easy you guys wanna earn some money np thats what i go working for,too. I gladly buy DG every month to have an advantage.
So i buy DG and fullfill my part of the deal but in the end in the moment i have no advantage so whatever happened the system as it is now with that high failing rate in refining is pure frustration.So you guys come and tell me why should i play a game to be frustrated.
Get the refinfing system to a point you guys make your $ and im a happy camper at the end of the day,thats called win win system and makes a long happy realtionship possible between you devs and me as part of the community change nothing all ill look for a game where i as player are cared about and develpores wanting me to be happy spending cash on there work.

Iribaar
S6

DM613 Post at 6-9-2011 00:21

[i=s] Post Last Edit by Kaestle at 21-1-2012 23:38 [/i]

[i=s] Post Last Edit by DM613 at 6-9-2011 01:24 [/i]

For top players of any new server who usually accept no1 abroad to do instances with gold traveling down all the time. The alone way is to advertise something, but no1 buys because: 1) they aswell get a very shitty ammount of money, 2) they dont charge a abundant college accessories or gems yet. I like the abstraction to accomplish gold added admired in this bold but this is too abundant...

Astute Post at 6-9-2011 04:40

[i=s] Post Last Edit by Astute at 6-9-2011 05:45 [/i]

Wonder why still no official reply here...:call:
And its not fair to compare with others in older servers who already have +9 sets. Im not gonna spend more money to buy DG just because i keep failing refining items. You wont win that way devs. Sooner or later many frustated people will just leave. Refining is the most exiting thing for majority here. And if you want them to dissapoint all the time they refine, well then...greedy is not the option to do business.

Same with the gold. Many people already made millions and billions before the patch and now everyone else just struggling. Gold doesnt even go up if you not selling any gems or shards. And you are forced to do that if you need to hire npc for instances. Also, you loose all the auctions to the ones who made hundreds of millions before the patch.
I know, even i offered to make gold more valuable thing here but not that much! Yes, good thing prices at markets went down massively but at least decrese the gold ammount for hiring npc, for claiming items from mails, increase the gold ammount from quests.

Want3d Post at 7-9-2011 13:29

Change it back! So many players are quitting due to frustrations of refining, and this is not exactly encouraging newer players to stick around either, because it just shows them straight off the bat that this game is a giant money sink. I know you see how unethical to just change refine rates without a fair announcement to the players. Eventually, this will just end up hurting you as people will just stop buying DG in the end because they keep failing. Great work.

wvvampire Post at 7-9-2011 13:59

[b] [url=http://forum.gamedp.com/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=78481&ptid=13146]1#[/url] [i]Astute[/i] [/b]


I agree bring back our old rates!!  It's crazy how much gold, etc. I've lost trying to refine something that should be just fine.

Kaestle Post at 8-9-2011 11:22

I just wanna say, it's the regular basis 75%, but it NEVER was the RIGHT numbers, as we ask yesterday they said they cannot give those rates, at it is in the codage code, I might ask for abreviated rate thought, can guarantee anything tho

Dregan Post at 15-1-2012 22:52

Let me just make it simple.  This question is brought up EVERY time their is an update.  The answer is always the same.  The Devs will never give you the percentage, or rates.  Just suck it up and get over it, or move on.  This is normal.

theonewhowasnev Post at 21-1-2012 23:31

i voted no ,cause they say that the rates were never changed so how can we go back if they are still the same ?

natsuto Post at 2-2-2012 21:33

I bought the DG and fullfill my part of the deal, but in the moment, I have no advantage, no matter what system, because it is a high failure rate in the refining of pure frustration. So you tell me, why should I play the game frustration.

Rige Post at 7-2-2012 15:19

:) i just +9 something straight from the scrap with 9 gems, 0 dg-ds, 0 debris.
pew

theonewhowasnev Post at 10-2-2012 02:04

im just not going to put +s on anything unless they are white ,it works better

HiddenEvil Post at 18-2-2012 00:25

[b] [url=http://forum.gamedp.com/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=94911&ptid=13146]18#[/url] [i]theonewhowasnev[/i] [/b]


Hi guys,
Im a old returned player, who have started from scratch on a new server, and i have in my quest to get a full +9 suit, a few times already gone from +0-+9 on my gears, without any failures, so where is thoose changes in the refining rates you guys talk about?
Also i dont see any problems with getting enough gold whatsoever, i actually think i earn a bit more than i would need.
About buying DG, i would say, from where i am, it looks like you still have a huge advantage over anyone who can't afford to buy DG, so i dont see any problems here either.

Rige Post at 18-2-2012 07:27

It's about luck and that's how it always is

Kadaj Post at 27-4-2012 19:44

All i'd like back is the additional 5% from Debris that they took away some time ago. Put it back to 15% attainable from debris, not just 10%.

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